tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post5834581375222566828..comments2024-03-18T18:05:25.821-07:00Comments on VISIONS OF THE NORTH: A second photograph of Harry GoodsirRussell Potterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-66469283425601659292018-04-13T07:17:04.808-07:002018-04-13T07:17:04.808-07:00Have you seen the new show, laddy?Have you seen the new show, laddy?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18393154553523983879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-38742827732113182682010-08-26T16:30:58.303-07:002010-08-26T16:30:58.303-07:00It would be amazing if any Daguerreotypes were eve...It would be amazing if <i>any</i> Daguerreotypes were ever recivered from this expedition!Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-83713402316550831262010-08-25T22:58:04.264-07:002010-08-25T22:58:04.264-07:00How interesting would it be if a daguerrotype of o...How interesting would it be if a daguerrotype of one of the 3 beechey mummies were found!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-50712542336768858932009-08-18T16:32:50.596-07:002009-08-18T16:32:50.596-07:00Thanks for the additional information. Yes it woul...Thanks for the additional information. Yes it would be interesting to trace what happpened to those men.xibalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-4687863640096890922009-08-17T14:36:01.381-07:002009-08-17T14:36:01.381-07:00Hi Pacal,
Interesting question.
I'm typing...Hi Pacal,<br /><br />Interesting question. <br /><br />I'm typing this from memory, but as I recall the Expedition should have sailed with 139 men (69 on Terror and 70 on Erebus - James Fitzjames being the 'extra' person on Erebus). One position on Terror was never filled amd four men who were enrolled onto the ships' Muster Books were then discharged for one reason or another before the ships left the Thames Estuary. One of these at least was discharged to Greenwich Hospital, which suggests he was ill, and another was discharged to an appointment on another ship, which suggests he was NOT ill.<br /><br />A further individual was sent back from Orkney and four more from Greenland. Crozier reported that two of the men discharged from Terror at Greenland were sent back because they were 'completely useless'. This might refer to their state of health, but then again it might not. On the other hand it implies that the other two WERE diagnosed with some illness.<br /><br />Lucky men!<br /><br />This means that 138 men were enrolled onto the Expedition but only 129 men died on it. No one has authoritatively worked out the reasons for all these discharges. I plan to try to trace the rest of the lives of these men who 'survived' and one, at least, I think, became a Ships' Chandler in Ireland and lived to a ripe old age long after the days of the Franklin Expedition.<br /><br />It looks very much as though more Daguerreotypes were taken than are known to have survived. But it seems unlikely that any were taken of non-commissioned members of the ships' companies, if only because their families were not likely to be able to pay for them! They were expensive for the day and Richard Beard the 'Daguerreotypist' (if that's the right word) was a highly commercial man!<br /><br />However, if iy is possible to trace the lives of the men who were discharged, it's possible that some of them at least were photographed in later life.William Battersbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452863778733148002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-50929249057491605192009-08-16T17:31:53.258-07:002009-08-16T17:31:53.258-07:00Just a question Do we have any photos of the men w...Just a question Do we have any photos of the men who were sent back for reasons of illness etc? I believe it amounted to 7 or 8 men. further did those men ever express any opinion about what happened to their shipmates and their own good fortune?xibalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-21258422196533947182009-08-15T07:50:02.382-07:002009-08-15T07:50:02.382-07:00Alas, the smaller version has already been enhance...Alas, the smaller version has already been enhanced; the unmodified original scan shows, if anything, even less detail. You can see the full-size scan (which unfortunately has a massive watermark) at:<br /><br />http://special.st-andrews.ac.uk/saspecial/index.php?a=wordsearch&s=zoom&key=Wczo3OiJBbGI4LTkwIjs=&pg=1Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-81023040334892380372009-08-05T10:25:39.449-07:002009-08-05T10:25:39.449-07:00I am working to get a much better resolution versi...I am working to get a much better resolution version of this image -- what you see here is very lo-def! -- more detail may possibly be retrieved. Calotypes do sometimes have a rather faded look, and can fade further over time; they are also not as sharp as Daguerreotypes. I'll keep everyone posted!Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-50793296707800009572009-08-04T18:53:21.907-07:002009-08-04T18:53:21.907-07:00I think Goodsir is holding a book with his right h...I think Goodsir is holding a book with his right hand. That would fit with his scholarly background. Not entirely unlike the "thinker" pose he held in the Daguerreotype taken before they sailed.<br /><br />It is possible to enhance the image a bit by playing with the contrast and brightness. Most picture editors will let you do this. Hitting "Auto Correct" in MS Office Picture Manager helped clean up the image.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564076916142050022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873756940955163469.post-6313453108865209502009-08-04T13:47:35.425-07:002009-08-04T13:47:35.425-07:00Yes,as you say it is a different pose,it looks lik...Yes,as you say it is a different pose,it looks like his right hand is resting on what could be a cane or stick,hard to tell though.<br />After seeing this image I went to Google images and Dr Harry Goodsir is the only person of the Franklin expedition where there two images, this one and the image taken prior to sailing.Bill Greenwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17717981465554521605noreply@blogger.com